You might have heard that the rise of the totally-worse-than-acutal-Nazis new right-wing German AfD party is horrible for Germany, because, in perfect circular argumentation, they are worse than acutal Nazis.
Now, you might not have heard that when you live outside Germany, because nobody elsewhere tends to give a fuck about the opposition if they’re not unjustly prosecuted or attacked on the streets (which AfD members are and have their cars burned by Antifa, but hey – as I said, who gives a fuck?
Today, I came upon this – I guess it’s an opinion piece, written by what goes for an university professor in Canada – sprout of leftist propganda. As it starts out with things that are blatantly wrong, I felt the need to comment it.
The rise of the anti-Muslim, anti-refugee AfD is a threat to Germany
Now, the AfD isn’t “anti-refugee”. I’m not sure what a “pro-refugee” stance lokks like; think “oh, let’s bomb this shithole country, that will generate a lot of refugees”, – but Germany isn’t exactly bordering any warzones or places you need to flee from, actually. Germany has a not-so – proud history of generating such places, but we tend to refrain from that since my grandfather was released from a POW camp.
The general stance of the AfD is that Germany shouldn’t take refugees from farwhere else because (a) it’s one of the most expensive countries to live in and with the money every single one refugee is upkept with in Germany you could feed a family of 50 in Africa, (b) Most “refugees” coming to Germany aren’t legally refugees (says the official Bureau of Statistics) and just want free money, which Germany generously hands out if you’re not a citizen (and even if you are; just don’t work). You English speaking guys have the idiom “no free lunch” -the German equivalent is far more general: Nichts zu verschenken, nothing is free.
On the point of “anti-Muslim”. I’m generally not good in and opposed to leftist doublethink, but “pro-Muslim” people today specifically are Turkey’s Erdogan and, if you include Islamism, the proud Jihadis of the Islamic State. I’d like the left to clarify which opposing position I’m supposed to find evil, now. Thank you.
But let’s get to the text. Well, the article picture.
Supporters of the anti-Islam movement PEGIDA (Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West) gather following the federal state elections of Saxony during a demonstration at the main railway station of Dresden, Germany, September 2, 2019
PEGIDA is a perfectly legal protest rally. Whose numbers are about 1/10th of that before every media outlet called them Nazis.
On Sunday, Germany’s new AfD (Alternative for Germany) party scored major advances in state elections in Brandenburg and Saxony. The states are in East Germany, which sees itself as an underprivileged part of the country.
What I hate about leftists is that they will boil everything down to “they feel (“see”)”. Brandenburg and Saxony factually still suffer the aftereffects of the idiocy of communism, 30 years after the fall of the Berlin wall. That’s not a matter of feeling, it’s a matter of fact. Their main export product is Spreewaldgurken*, a kind of pickles.
AfD is also the official opposition in the German federal parliament — the Bundestag — and is present now in all 17 German states.
Germany doesn’t have the British system with an “official” opposition, and the Federal Republic of Germany (FRoG) consists of 16 member states, none of whom think about what acronyms sond like in other major languages.
AfD was founded in 2013 by a group of economics professors who were fed up with the apparently perpetual crisis in Greece, which was causing the European Central Bank to pour huge sums into that country to prop up its economy following the global collapse of 2008/09. Prosperous Germany was contributing massive amounts of Euros to Greece and many Germans believed that the spendthrift Greeks were lazing on the shores of Grecian beaches while German industrial workers were labouring to the bone to provide upkeep for them.
Germans, again, didn’t “believe” that, they saw that while vacationing of those exactly same Grecian beaches.
AfD demanded Germany exit the Eurozone and return to the use of the Deutsche Mark while returning Germany to those conservative economic policies that had once marked the ruling Christian Democratic Union (the party of Chancellor Angela Merkel) and the classical liberal party, the Free Democrats.
Please note that German “liberal” isn’t English “liberal”, but rather “libertarian”. As in “free”.
Since then, AfD has become the self-proclaimed heart of traditional German culture. It is avowedly anti-Muslim and anti-refugee and contains within its ranks prominent populists who rage against what they see as the imminent disappearance of Germany as a white, Christian state.
Please note that political commentators on the “other” side of yours will always “hate”, “rage” or do something childishly wrong. Also, the imminent disappearance of Germany as a white state is an imminent fact that will be reality long before any measurable effects of climate change. immirgarion or not. We’ll die.
Some of its leaders have collaborated with neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers and avowed anti-Semites while the party itself tries to maintain a line (not always a clear one) between its right-wing politics and Germany’s Nazi past.
“Guilt by association” is not an argument, but a logical fallacy, See: Schopenhauer.
Such claims are not sufficiently clear when measured against protestations that past German governments have made too much of Germany’s Second World War record, German war guilt, and German atrocities. One leader, Björn Höcke, for example, proclaimed that Germany is the only country that has installed a symbol of shame (the Holocaust memorial) in the very heart of its capital.
Mr. Höcke’s statement is factually true. Germany is the only nation on this planet that has installed a monument of shame in it’s capital. It’s quite ugly, too. Both the monument and the capital, and most Germans are asahmed of both.
He also asserts that “The Syrians who come to us still have their Syria. But if we — through the Syrians — lose our Germany, we will not have a homeland anymore.”
In my personal opinion, Höcke is a self-aggrandizing idiot, especially because Syrians aren’t exactly high on Germany’s “problem” immigrants list, but: That statement is also true.
Founding member Alexander Gauland has declared that the Nazi era was but “a speck of birds–t” on German history.
Which, of course, is absolutely horrible. Who’d want anyone to think of Germany as the country of Beethoven’s 9th symphony, now raped as the anthem of corrupt bureaucrat EU? The invention of the Diesel engine by Rudolf Diesel? The other, “normal” fuel Engine by a guy named Otto? The car by Mr. Benz (that’s as in Mercedes-Benz)? The Nazi V2 rocket engineer who, a few years after, landed the first man on the moon? Konrad Zuse’s first computer? Airbags?
Nah, fuck that. Nazism is what we want everyone to associate with Germany. And shame, as expressed by an ugly holocaust memorial in the least upkept city in all of Germany, which is our capital. I’ve seen pictures of Erbil in Iraq, that’s a warzone, and it’s clean.
Unrest in the streets of Chemnitz in August of last year saw AfD members marching alongside neo-Nazis and other extreme right-wing groups
I’d like to note that, dear reader, please use caution when authors throw different things together in one sentence; that’s called “framing”. As in, “cute kittens, puppy dogs and blowjobs”. Be aware of such things. Because, honestly, do you define an “extreme right-wing group” as one
who proudly proclaim their anti-Islam and anti-immigration policies
Notably, none of the AfD leaders is against immigration in general. They are agains immigration into the welfare system. People who wanna – and can – work are essentially welcome (that is, as fas ar Germans are welcoming anyone, which is close to “not”).
AfD benefited greatly as a political party when Merkel allowed about a million Syrian refugees into Germany
Again, that’s a profoundly dishonest statement. We don’t know if those “refugees” – again, of whom most aren’t refugees at all – are from Syria, because Merkel decided to just open the borders to every fortune seeker. No controls. I can’t spontaneously name positive effects of that policy, but we got a lot of random street stabbings, and, oh, tuberculosis, which used to be extinct since before I was born.
Unrest in the streets of some German cities and a palpable rise in anti-Semitism followed.
That rise in anti-semitism, meanwhile, can to aprrox. 100% be attributed to Muslims that were part of that uncontrolled immigration. Please note that the author wanted you to think that has anything to do with native Germans.
So far AfD has been gaining votes despite still being a loose coalition of right-wing extremists
A “coalition” involves more than one party. And, maybe, the AfD is a weird coalition between right-wing extremists and resonable people. Like the fed-up economics professors mentioned above – who are no longer part of the party, sadly.
who have but one main thing in common — their opposition to Islam in Germany and the belief in the myth of a so-called Bevölkerungsaustausch — the replacement of the white majority population by Muslim and non-white migrants.
It’s really cheap demagogics to repeat yourself. We had already cleared up that the replacement / dying-out of they “Aryan” white Christian population in Germany is a fact.
Unlike Hitler’s Nazis they do not have a consistent and all-consuming racial interpretation of geopolitics
Oh look, the new German Nazi party isn’t even racist. Who thought?
nor a single dominating, demagogic personality to lead them.
… neither do they follow a medi-hyped Guru like Greta Thunberg. Who thought? That must be the “coalition” reasonable people who also are pro-AfD, next to the Neo-Nazis, of course. Always mention the neo-Nazis.
Recently one of the AfD’s regional leaders, Doris von Sayn-Wittgenstein, was expelled from the party over her links to a group that preaches Holocaust denial, which is a crime in Germany.
Honestly, I’m German, and I’ve never heard any word about Doris. But the name sounds like a evil German Nazi living in a Doom castle, doesn’t it?
Also, there aren’t any groups preacing holocaust denials in Germany. Their pure existence would be a crime, too.
But their desire to sweep German culpability for the Second World War — the greatest and bloodiest in history
See – if Germany weren’t so stuck up with guilt, that’s easy to explain: If we build a car, it’s the greatest. And fastest. And most superlatives-t. Germans tend to be excellent in superlatives. Merkel’s border opening in 2015, I’m sure, will go down in history as the most idiotic.
Modern German democracy is in large measure based on the idea that Germany went very wrong in the 1930s and caused a war that consumed the lives of at least 50 million people with some of the worst atrocities and war crimes in history.
Yeah, and as every nation on this planet, we have learned nothing from history. The rise of the moderate ecomnomic-professor AfD was loudly outcried as the rise of the new Nazi party. Only effect? Less reasonable people, more populist idiots, but then, more votes. If you read up on how Hitler came to power: That’s exactly it.
Don’t worry, Ms. von der Leyen, former German defense minister and now EU president, ruined the German military far worse than the treaty of Versailles in 1918. There’s not much risk of Germany’s army invading anywhere soon.
Modern Germans cannot and should not be blamed for the actions of their grandparents.
Oh really? thank you, you’re so kind, asshole. We Germans have a word for that – multiple, actually. Coined, for the reason to send people to conentration camps, by the Nazis, btw: Erbschuld (think ‘original sin’) and Sippenhaft (think collective punishment). Both of which, history telly us, are morally bad. Except, of course, when somebody calls the monument of shame in the heart of our (unworthy) capital a monument of shame. Again: I’m largely incapable of leftist Doublethink. I’m sure there will be a “but”:
Angela Merkel and all of her predecessors, from founding chancellor Konrad Adenauer on down have all accepted that Nazism was a terrible blight on German history
…which makes it even more weird that someone is critizised for calling the holocaust memorial in Berlin a monument of shame. i’m pretty sure the Nazis were quite proud of exterminating jews.
and that rebuilding a modern, rights-based, democratic society had to be based on facing the Nazi past
Yeah, but the learning from Germany’s Nazi past is that the average German will go batshit asshole when too much annoyed in an instant. Why not, maybe, not annoy and exploit Germans until the barrel is overflowing? Didn’t work very well in history, and what makes the Holocaust so exceptional, compared to equally murderous atrocities like Pol Pot’s Killing Fields in Cambodia, Stalin’s etc.pp. Gulags and Mao’s idiocy, not to mention the arbitrary genocide committed by the Japanese on China or anything still ongoing between Muslims of one and the other kind: As mentioned above, Germans quite excel at extremes. Nobody wants Germans to go to war. That includes Germans, we also excel at feeling guilt. That doesn’t make you win wars.
AfD does not share that basic value.
See… I, and most reasonable people, don’t exactly think that feeling guilt for something not even your grandpa did (he’d have been hung, rightfully so) – is a “basic value”. There’s a really interesting video by Sargon of Akkad commenting on a German leftist, with Sargon explaining Enlgish thinking to a German leftist and the totally “weird”, in the eyes of an Englishman, perspective on the “learnings” of Nazism and German culture to the world.
Now, the political left focus on “feeling” morale rather than “rational” facts, so Sargon’s critizism focusses on the morale side, and – well, his important point is that an Englishman wouldn’t say “We English”, but “the English” instead. He goes on to explain that by inspired [namedropping] philosophers, the English are very individualistic, while Germans are, as in Thomas Mann’s novel, Untertanen (think subject, your language is insufficient, Untermenschen).
Now, that’s an useless point. Germans aren’t stupid; in contrast, we Germans 😉 are quite convinced you are. or, at least, we were, up to my generation. Now, we see our youth indoctricated with PC bullshit and – well, about 40% of Germans vote centre to communist, (about half don’t vote at all) so most of Germans are fine with that – I don’t need to emphasize that by “we Germans” I don’t mean “all Germans”, as, of course, i can’t speak for everyone, and i don’t know everyone. That’s just leftist idiocy- If I say “Gypsys are a bunch of thieves”, leftist “march the instutions” may judge me for “being racist”, but (a) gypsys are a bunch of thieves, say statistics, and actual racism would necesitate me to include every individual in that statement… which I didn’t, of course, I’m not a stupid leftist. Now, the problem with the stupid leftists is:
And although it is highly unlikely that it will ever form a federal government in Germany — no legitimate German political party will join it in a coalition
… the use of the word “legitimate”. You can use that in a moral and a legal way, and the political left essentially uses it as a reason to break the law, “legitimately”. Because – you know, it sounds good.
The problem here, is, essentially a moral question: Is democracy a morally good thing? Because… if it is, the voted-for AfD party is “legitimate”.
Denying a democratically elected party legitimacy ridicules democracy to the point it’s dead. You can, of course, blame that on the evil, immoral right-wing reasonable people, but morals don’t buy you anything. I like to quote 2000-years-dead Polybios who described the inevitable decline of democracy into tyranny, but then, he didn’t even have the braindead idea to give a vote to mentally disabled 16yo girls.
the danger it poses to Germany and Europe cannot be underestimated.
Think of keeping a herd of chicken and buiding a fence to keep out wulves.
You can cry wulf as much as you want.
The wulves won’t stop existing.
And, for the followers of the idea that the world would be rid of evil if we just exterminated the Germans or – Kalergi-Style – just force all wulves to be chickens – that just won’t happen. It has been tried, it’s called commnism, and it will just result in millions of dead and poverty for the leftovers and…oh, who’d have thought – tyranny, as Polybios said.
Humanity, in essence, is split about 50/50 into people who value morality over rationality and the other way around. That’s (ideally) the political left and the political right, but not in any country existing today in a place that has internet access anymore. Now, that one rational half of humanity thinks the moral half are a bunch of idiots, while the moral half thinks the rational people are evil.
That’s why democracy, discussion and compromise are considered a good thing. The world thrives if those 2 kinds of humans can find a compromise. The only problem is that that’s a volatile balance, and the scale tends to tip to one side or another. We haven’t had that in the “Western” world since WW2, but I’m afraid the scale is tipping again, and, as Polybios said, unpreventably so. The positions are incommensurable, you can’t reason with morale and you cant’t moralize with reason.
Now, the modern interpretation of democracy is that you can decide which side the scale tips over to into (inevitable) chaos. Your choices are the evil right, which famously killed 6 million Jews and anoter 50 million people nobody gives a fuck about, or the morally good left, who killed twice that many, but nobody gives a fuck about.
Last time that decision happened on a global scale was WW2, and I honestly don’t think that we’ll have another global war, thanks to nuclear weapons all around. But ignoring that, you’ll have to choose your side: Are you with the morally good people, who’ll kill millions and end up billions of people in inescapable corrupt poverty, or will you side with the evil Nazis, who’ll torture a few hundred people to death in pressure chambers to make a diving table that’s now progammed into your Japanese-made dive computer? (Ah – and also kill millions, while billions can afford dive computers)
For my part, i gotta catch my dive boat.
*: might not be true